Message #309

From: thesamer@interia.pl
Subject: Macros and TIME
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:04:01 +0200

Hello M.!

I have discussed with Michal one more thing with macros -> TIME.

In linux version there are very very quick twists so macro (even with 100
moves) takes only moment.

In windows version cube is twisting very nicely but without much speed. This
is good because the effects during twisting are beautiful… but in
hyperSPEEDsolving it could be the problem.

Ok. First I fought that’s fine. Everybody (to have good time) will have to
find shortest algorithm for any situation… And this can help a lot -> new
solutions!, new ideas! You will no loose the contact with cube (I really
don’t know how to do some algorithms because I forgot how they look like, I
know where they are on macros list and this is all)

Algorithm with 100 moves will take 10 sec
Algorithm with 10 moves will take 1 sek

Why lose so much twists and time if there is shorter solution?!

To be good in hyperspeedsolving, you have to be good in algorithms or maybe
even think new way of solution…

(Btw, Noel do you think that your method is quick? How fast can you be with
your method? (sub 20 min. with Roice method on macros from linux). Could I
see your log from 3^4?)

Michal was surrending the other side.

Now I do not know what to think. Maybe there should be (as Michal suggested)
"speed option" which make all macros timeless (click on macro and there is
instantly whole effect, even when you have 100 twist in that macro -> look
in 5D).

"It’s hyperspeedsolving not hypershortestsolving" he said and was a little
right.

Nevertheless I’m a little bit worried that timeless macros will stop
development… That basic one… During few years we had only Roice method
(which is the most appopriate for speedsolving in my opinion), few voices of
Layer by Layer method and Noel method…(the last one gave us very nice
results on 4^4 and 5^4).

I have macros for almost every situation. I could go in diffrent way during
the solving. I could start with 4C, next do 3C and finish with 2C (I
have/had macros that only operates/operated on single kind of pieces but I
know a little/or nothing about how they really look like). I don’t know is
that what is all about in cubing. Push/say a "wish" and have result…
that’s fine.I like macros and I think it’s the only way of solving
hypercubes on championships. BUT there sould be difference between macro
with 500 moves and macro with 10 moves. Here is the way where people can
earn for title "master of hypercubing"…

I find this problem intresting.

Lately I was asked with Michal to wrote down some kind of relgulations for
hypercubing contest (during championships in Poland it will be talk with Ron
von Bruchen). Unfortunatelly I won’t be there… Anyway -> In next year we
want to do that kind of contest! And we are serious about it :-)

That’s all, maybe others should give theirs opinion (I have impression that
lately I’m the main "opinion force" here, no one even said a word about
macros, etc ;D)

Hear you soon,
Remi D.

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