Message #3956

From: Roice Nelson <>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Re: Notation
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:30:57 -0600

Hi Ed,


Things have never been as organized (w.r.t. definitions or a solution
guide) for MC5D, so I think the answer to your question about "a single set
of of agreed upon definitions" is, unfortunately, nope. If you run across
specific terms you’d like clarified, I’m sure folks will be happy to
discuss. In any case, it sounds like you are on a good track… you are
exactly right that you’ll need some 5-color sequences to finish things off,
which you can build recursively from the 4-color sequences. Here is a
somewhat recent post that gathers together a few other posts about solving
MC5D. I hope it is helpful.

About the stereo vision, I find that feature more of a fun thing, and not
so useful for an actual solve.

One other thing I thought I’d mention. I haven’t solved MC5D using
Andrey’s MC7D, but some folks prefer that presentation, so it might be
something to consider as well.

Best of luck!

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 12:16 AM, [4D_Cubing] <> wrote:

> Hello higher-dimensional thinkers,
> I just solved the 3^4 back in December, and I’m trying to get my bearings
> on MC5D. I want to do the 3^5 this year, but as I read the posts, it’s
> clear that there’s a language being spoken. I developed my own nomenclature
> and shorthand in the process of completing the 3^4, but I need a starting
> point to comprehend some of the conversations. Is there a site covering
> terminology? Perhaps I should ask, "Is there a single set of agreed upon
> definitions in the group?" I’m an engineer and medical scientist who has
> loved visualizing higher dimensions for decades…
> Wait, before I go on, I want to give my personal thanks to Roice Nelson
> for the Ultimate Solutions he made available. As someone who first
> programmed in 1980, I also want to commend everyone involved with MC4D. I
> found it while I was looking for higher dimensional games for a workshop I
> facilitate in Southern California. For many years, I have pondered
> developing a 4D graphics engine. It’s great finding people who value
> cultivating reasoning skills in higher spatial dimensions and are using the
> computer to create the tools and toys that bring this end about. I’m still
> figuring out my way around Yahoo Groups - I think this is my first time in
> this environment, so I apologize if my post seems off-topic or is directed
> at the wrong part of the community.
> Hmmm…too many topics on my mind to put into one post. Once I get
> started, I have a hard time stopping. It’s very tempting to follow every
> thread, but I’m insanely busy, and want to stay focused on solving the 3^5.
> I’ve printed out a couple of advisory posts, but I don’t fell like I’ve
> found the main threads on the subject.
> It seems like the solution process closely resembles that of MC4D, with
> more pieces of each type (2c, 3c, 4c), and more axes, but expect that there
> is (or are), 5-color series that must be included to finish off the 5D cube.
> I’ve run solutions on full scrambles of the 7^5 with all pieces showing
> just to get a "feel" for how the solutions roll out. I’m also solidifying
> my understanding of how the 5D cube is represented in the application.
> Is the stereo vision version useful? I tried observing MC5D with some
> cheap 3D glasses. It looks neat, and I ordered a better pair for when I
> begin the challenge. I might get a larger monitor too.
> I also want to revisit and completely master the 3^4. As I progressed to
> my first solution, a lot of interesting processes took place - I had to
> develop my own maneuvers, and I’m interested in learning about how other
> people dealt with issues I faced.
> Glad to be here! Kudos to all of you!
> Ed