Message #2839

From: Roice Nelson <>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] RE: New 4D solver :)
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:08:54 -0600

Hi Michael,

I think a 13 move sequence to cycle three 4C pieces would be the shortest
we’ve encountered. I am interested to see it, and I bet others here would
be too!

When trying to solve with a minimum number of moves, it is possible to use
an 8 move sequence to solve 4C pieces. The sequence cycles three 4C pieces
and flips 2 edges, but if you use it in pairs, you can effectively get an 8
move sequence. Here’s a message from our archives discussing that (woah,
from 2004!), and it lists the sequence at the bottom:


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:31 PM, <> wrote:

> Hi Michael, welcome!
> For 3-cycle of 4C I know only 16-move sequence, as well as for rotation
> of two 4C pieces. And flip of a single 4C - also take 16 moves… they all
> have the same pattern in my method.
> My best result for 3^4 (MC4D program, no macros) was, as far as I
> remember, 17:25. But it was long time ago, and now I can’t do even 25
> minutes… but I keep training :)
> Andrey