Message #2017

From: Roice Nelson <roice3@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] New here
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:50:10 -0600

Hi Chris,

Welcome!

Here are some links I hope will help with your questions:

• *Macros:* The Superliminal page describing
  macros<http://superliminal.com/cube/macros.html>in MC4D.
  
• *Notation:* A page from the MC4D solution
  guide<http://superliminal.com/cube/solution/pages/cube.htm>describing
  one notation scheme. (We have never really settled on a
  standard notation for twists. Also, let us know if you were asking about
  notation for something other than twisting.)
  
• *Shortcut Keys:* The MC4D FAQ
  <http://superliminal.com/cube/faq.html>, which
  has descriptions of some of the shortcut keys you can use.
  
• *5D:* The MC5D home page <http://www.gravitation3d.com/mc5d/>, for
  the 5-dimensional puzzle. And yep, there have been quite a few human
  solutions! We keep them documented in the Hall of
  Insanity<http://www.gravitation3d.com/magiccube5d/hallofinsanity.html>.
  It’s unbelievable, but there have even been 7-dimensional human
  solutions <http://astr73.narod.ru/MC7D/MC7D.html> in the past few years
  too!
  
• *MagicTile link:* The MagicTile home
  page<http://www.gravitation3d.com/magictile>,
  with the download and a description of the concept behind the program.

As for the other shapes in MC4D, a lot of knowledge on this topic is a
spread a bit across our group archives. This thread from way back in
2006<http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/4D_Cubing/message/268> might
help to better understand puzzles based on different 4D shapes. Just as
Megaminx is a 3D puzzle variant having some properties of Rubik’s Cube but
a different shape, there are *many* other 4D shapes which are a similar
sort of variation of MC4D. On this topic, searching for "polytope" in our
archives and on the web can lead to all sorts of interesting places…

Cheers,
Roice

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Chris Chiesa <xet001@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I’m new here, and not yet sure I know what-all’s going on… I tried
> a very early version of MC4D back around 1999 or so, and enjoyed it
> (couldn’t solve it, but got to the point where I could at least see my way
> to reverse four quarter-turns or so, by sight). I’m a little bothered to
> find that, whereas it was a Windows .exe back then, nowadays it’s a .jar…
> but I understand why. I could also really, really use some documentation.
> Macros? Notation? Shortcut keys? Concepts for things other than the
> plain old Cube? (I don’t "get" what the other shapes are/do.) I’ve seen
> the video for the solution of the 5 (?) dimensional one, but can’t even see
> what’s going on, let alone follow the action. Can human beings actually
> solve a thing like that?!?
>
> I also have no idea what MagicTile is, but it sounds interesting; can
> someone give me a link to where I can get it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Chiesa
>
>