Message #3138
From: Melinda Green <melinda@superliminal.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicCube5D Stickers
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:10:12 -0700
I like Roice’s idea of using 3D kitties. There could be black ones,
white ones, tiger striped, etc.; and they can meow when clicked. Of
course they’ll keep wandering off, so solving becomes impossible.
On 7/13/2015 5:35 PM, ‘alvin55531 .’ alvin5553@gmail.com [4D_Cubing] wrote:
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> So the stickers in MC7D, normally, would be 6D stickers, but since
> that would be too complicated, 3D stickers are used instead.
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Roice Nelson roice3@gmail.com
> <mailto:roice3@gmail.com> [4D_Cubing] <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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> Sure, they could. They could also be dots: see some MC6D pictures
> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/4D_Cubing/photos/albums/1099782835>
> in the pictures area, where I drew stickers as dots because
> 5D-stickers would look excessively complicated. If you look at
> Don’s ND-solver code
> <http://www.plunk.org/%7Ehatch/MagicCubeNdSolve/>, he uses text
> characters for stickers, which is yet another possibility. They
> could even be tiny little cats if we wanted, as long as the
> combinatorics of the puzzle remained accurate :)
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> I think it is somewhat of an aesthetic choice. If you make them
> cubes, I would argue that is less faithful to the nature of the
> puzzle. The stickers are 4D, so why not draw them that way? What
> Melinda described would be faithful as well in my opinion. A
> *downside* to making them appear 3D is that it might end up
> causing confusion for some folks when first exposed to the puzzle.
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> In MC7D, stickers are excessively complicated too, so Andrey made
> some choices to cull things out to make usage tractable. It seems
> necessary to make some simplification there. Do you have a reason
> to prefer cubes over hypercubes in MC5D?
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> Roice
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> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:29 AM, ‘alvin55531 .’
> alvin5553@gmail.com <mailto:alvin5553@gmail.com> [4D_Cubing]
> <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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> Can the stickers be not tesseract but just cubes? If every
> single sticker on MC5D were replaced with stickers similar to
> MC4D, I don’t think it would make a difference except for the
> fact that the stickers in the center would be covered by
> stickers on top of it.
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> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Melinda Green
> melinda@superliminal.com <mailto:melinda@superliminal.com>
> [4D_Cubing] <4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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> I like that the wireframe stickers are obviously
> tesseracts, and it may be useful to be able to see through
> them, however I also like your idea of solid stickers. An
> accurate display would not necessarily be simple cubes.
> Rather, they would be the unions of the projections of
> their cubic faces.
> -Melinda
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> On 7/11/2015 2:34 PM, ‘alvin55531 .’ alvin5553@gmail.com
> <mailto:alvin5553@gmail.com> [4D_Cubing] wrote:
>> The stickers in MC5D are wireframe tesseract, which
>> makes sense since the stickers for MC4D are 3d cubes and
>> the rubik’s cube has "2D" stickers. But would the puzzle
>> be the same if the stickers were cubes instead of
>> tesseracts, just like MC7D individual stickers. I don’t
>> see how it would make a difference.
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