Message #2388

From: Melinda Green <>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] MagicTile Solving: tiny size / big challenge
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:47:14 -0700

Nice find, Eduard! I especially like that it is non-orientable in
addition to being small.

How about you create a fully scrambled log file containing your 3-cycle
hidden in the middle somewhere and then share it with the group? We will
then see who can solve it. I just confirmed that you can erase the
scrambling history from the log file by deleting everything between the
<Block> and </Block> tags. That will make it a fair contest. It doesn’t
seem to give the "ding" sound when you solve it that way but it seems to
work fine otherwise.


On 9/13/2012 12:48 AM, Eduard wrote:
> I’m very surprised to encounter a tiny MagicTile puzzle presenting a BIG challenge ! It’s "MT eucl klein {3,6} 8 v 0:0:1". It has only 12 two-color elements but the commutator moves 6 elements (double 3-cycle) and has only 6 fixed elements. To create a single 3-cycle you have to find a setup which moves 5 moving elements on the 6 fixed places. Possibly you can solve this puzzle by chance when scrambled with few moves. But if I give you a scrambling with my 28 move single 3-cycle you have to do the job.