# Message #1938

From: Eduard <baumann@mcnet.ch>

Subject: Re: 24cell FT

Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:49:54 -0000

I’m still solving with great pleasure the "24cell FT". I have solved 96 2C face centers, 96 3C edges and 96 2C face sides sofar and I’m approaching the 50% of the puzzle. My move count is 390’000 and the elapsed time 42h45. Nan has reached 54’000 moves and 9h25 for the whole. And Andrey is even better. I will use estimated 1 Mio moves to finish. I think that Nan and Andrey must use external computer program power and advise or do extremely sophisticated setup’s. Is that so?

— In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@…> wrote:

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> Work with 3Cs - I have also finished 5 cells of 24. Ed, :)

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> — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Andrey" <andreyastrelin@> wrote:

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> > I’ve also finished 2C centers. It took about 570 twists (and no macros at all). Now work with 3Cs - finished 5 cells of 24. Comparing with 120-cell it looks not difficult at all - but the most interesting things are still ahead :)

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> > Andrey

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> > — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@> wrote:

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> > > I have finished now the 96 2C face centers of the 24cell FT. I needed 8121 moves compared to the about 800 moves of Nan for the same thing. This is a little bit frustrating but not enough to stop my efforts. Now I tackle the 96 3C edges. I have already a 3 cycle. The same 3 cycle executed 3 times gives a 3 cycle for the 2C face-sides.

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> > > — In 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com, "Eduard" <baumann@> wrote:

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> > > > I have started to solve 24cell FT". Until now only Nan Ma did it in about 54’000 moves.

> > > > Forst I place at home the 2 colored face elements. There are 96. For 52 faces I needed 5300 moves. Replaying the log file of Nan I see that he used only about 750 moves for all faces. Most of his moves are dedicated to place the 2 colored face-corner elements different from the face elements (13’000 to 54’000).

> > > > My technic consists of using a narrow 3 cycle for the faces and a narrow 2 element flip for faces. I estimate that I will use about 10’000 moves for the faces only.

> > > > I observe also when replying Nan’s log file that only the very first moves show an animation.

> > > > Can anybody help me to understand these things? ;-)

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