Message #1637

From: David Smith <djs314djs314@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MC4D] Klein’s Quartic n-order formula and specific values
Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 19:30:53 -0700

Well, I made a typo.  I am having the worst time with this!!  It was just a typo,
but it affected the order-2 value (as the typo was in the program I used to calculate
the value), which is fortunately the least important value and not handled by the
formula.  Believe it or not, I was actually foolish enough to rush the email, as I
had to be somewhere.  Sometimes I make poor decisions, such as when I left
the group.  There is a reason for this, but I’d rather not elaborate.  Suffice it to say
I can get very excited and will post without thinking things through.  I’m quite
frustrated about this whole mess, and am beginning to once again doubt my place
here.  I appreciate that I somehow seem to be accepted.  Thank you all for your
infinite patience with my less than acceptable behavior.

Order-2:

((55!)/2)*(3^54) =

369146257949872278508346583570993737249432489876231945112921980256300934<br> 568495001108480000000000000

All the best,
David

— On Sun, 5/1/11, David Smith <djs314djs314@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Smith <djs314djs314@yahoo.com>
Subject: [MC4D] Klein’s Quartic n-order formula and specific values
To: 4D_Cubing@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 8:09 PM

 





Hi everyone,

Okay, I can now claim I fully understand the Klein’s Quartic puzzle.  I apologize
for my earlier mistakes, and guarantee that the following formula and calculations
are accurate, excepting a typo.  I had failed to realize that Klein’s Quartic is very
much like a 3-dimensional puzzle.  It has ‘corners’ and ‘edges’.  I did not study the
order-2 puzzle enough to realize that the ‘corners’ existed.  This is of course
obvious to all of you, since you have played with the puzzle more than I have, and
many of you have even solved it.  The way the order-3 and higher puzzle appear
immediately made obvious to me the nature of the ‘corners’ and ‘edges’.  The
order-2 puzzle’s appearance somewhat disguises its true nature, but that is no
excuse for my lack of investigation.

Here is the
formula for the number of permutations of the order-n Klein’s Quartic
puzzle for odd n >= 3:

And here are individual values:

Order-2:

((55!)/2)*(3^53) =

123048752649957426169448861190331245749810829958743981704307326752100311<br> 522831667036160000000000000

Order-3:

(84!)*(56!)*(2^81)*(3^55) =

993919860351336970116941239153296103939497528293494685545497421465353823<br> 867122389570825760861036003717296401423048183458017237535043916628667848529348<br> 418500952983796478875293990282425667716662641223463686191606729487155200000000<br> 000000000000000000000000

Order-5:

(((168!)/((7!)^24))^2)*((168!)/2)*(84!)*(56!)*(2^81)*(3^55)
=

153813597602981865296923122878293408297707605840877433021601977114757488<br> 141188456378084938578404431213530399155802876124924501302998795803488994282318<br> 638973392226465765639269482642062480505130632851949992339629771331733910361394<br> 187875621200775783795330499539579105683370865469180184421558825857092857952139<br> 675652574064438504019365838704215066676118844823272520482463359811616584351650<br> 343294082974911191373304636015923982296607487243206304661823823179829496028840<br> 929128708900416627301861209241866736735119716387769997220107174269840158765913<br> 914510643210391000467377130910048027024945418450246083224037558282200707856137<br> 417672596140743196018794757987904441064746702209870189273782494772422622248229<br> 582206349072075076140907820840336618805947675411840837091706167131159031529916<br> 608909239023245119282172250315201115126049303085088200765125878010439058553209<br> 19488480077017358056554496000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000<br> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Order-7:

(((168!)/((7!)^24))^6)*(((168!)/2)^2)*(84!)*(56!)*(2^81)*(3^55) =

291652081227680814998213157804602335018085364039052280961816073114448730<br> 392894920023356437101146476284320603185810624757021755947665298890077989550883<br> 885311343466371999384057110413096574296849941236724269152103544645442486218695<br> 076600252096301812306832372577853207239998648950663571317985724006765904739680<br> 977105203817627232866878630402546853197300928140997055230021724053848990847216<br> 551957669431605329014717773898577089777619452520575734359293791029055047460576<br> 974564133092157579429829165447260989008971819817294651225865111987625423736784<br> 401171396455752024547584118386324881866238870218023662586959246641024767000358<br> 285518158311830911257029022642565363726603369418008829918092525995884379417405<br> 670910582899355979014578770936069119778606566775357202755594741592869227544047<br> 178229603580102844151585056303034806574605033952482681047551433264000114310716<br> 924001031918988612472952919237611441342665686598541
080344137343237544467454063<br> 349911222948500021047225513530557140871503559750837011458585002994770311031339<br> 781109128549029418138339924851610383224600629274310641062928263251950995560148<br> 937777274448616949465037469723128521933851772717618059366344850213381098526318<br> 319060550935249803574921929117917238519906930661961947706955966404872626429782<br> 132804861306667749534406026729935529881538323975563828330896791908785507675059<br> 773775794278700459656226381696124358922920273604368715840236421715579658507382<br> 365453517371351486086458623588131038391141321230610350870074067038457996241667<br> 720900561881878754648098316208849769503988442111398599945245303613729339183849<br> 167767601179210373127434178110063536344436887129279839469942450678228480290417<br> 935016209791318697331932192833279890869534215446438165799082847867421585376427<br> 125195520939078272991998436471331374584526239824202581947561332987759818220178<br> 4496259907394520261388
43213446477424511640590394442357826468773763181183467355<br> 539723948286105864976159089388473584954233058380887860737526988800000000000000<br> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000<br> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000<br> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000

Order-9:

(((168!)/((7!)^24))^12)*(((168!)/2)^3)*(84!)*(56!)*(2^81)*(3^55)
=

677582869828578066590514174426477151611690434506950459808287370437586411<br> 589712092377745815252610930902313658103766880255574538687753843375713294897632<br> 229604198139428110010773285646728126823387215212255969547186353882369700028967<br> 357420423630846160741822346537314280930026018987102915805246070856404614500425<br> 080097246212719291213975788892366066186385076310698582572122488831893325275338<br> 022200576603148637405090301054731728037990100651517592252935578389346975932765<br> 393031787471498515172826138520961440317355862707925533637995776970273715363414<br> 763966001363948789113428479431707402741209524218143534272382729149389093065277<br> 738776510908735266022840504909278164416307388596961383581457574835426043053858<br> 567130861051011559090208050156911206052149351505039750810224644148029574393183<br> 643117846586265363506172950816736400283897320748166942865332312858367774914685<br> 40096969369772032552421988068250720674237146034126
7136120269318225507969219890<br> 147215159865406150475078930492604815977957514374625438016561144829700944961469<br> 903841769287163517353646630553103279651164614135572024499483587396729352167073<br> 314647757488867863523612624916957271732409936033435795555768007982838821934759<br> 529312703400982479192577976332369625248478885795751249576247219706313028822865<br> 251158674424998015916461969114262493126387933357244586468480986348677384231084<br> 051947741834028586096264224079871413353793237542286834143546953887276596438016<br> 154110548089321896312300275346346285309747824057951560619284748297160126997018<br> 555164003753708299148367101333402034431705143711815830435474957991495425111612<br> 359055249286259249512637496443116519132276856611864187351528116367034140077649<br> 228256600937975605450350463096018689689494317504186472028713476549889531616376<br> 265218640002711615030585980771460377839679256037218151469434036491261624917999<br> 789690125252651753140
985992078803105585299781688200576431175253129002734686056<br> 692936038452950797255495408609243046821111989281772950244181499940165613599069<br> 752993108229555644132121597169167501944449522582579165541347370340485791216208<br> 810170273407800901109543642032049395922018609103137870253925946466865040950825<br> 824546115634620984823219064591293138556739533342518609429381273237731039456346<br> 033862977346326049590625286483487039215891508292461576449677325801713807841621<br> 978580747913527131242794907636091311463666958399217772206627407877191823447182<br> 972778655397576328357440033690392795699207683940192423828998570474496739832672<br> 019477652114590214018791934706322664952454443925279628796082488146236072268592<br> 846976676880487114045448401559927701979774401207562058551583086165782131087375<br> 511914244510236734437321250625678331088571958029689058768955878732093815869906<br> 096544425748818588441839626888167846642644935534200259360142428511293980509
753<br> 769444013986800173687430173032163302215452990618380458170730647098036066945049<br> 985220622514584487675630337487016621327879705553585461019820126404131837827513<br> 491519322013117934471257069495199166734762494535604267339796974779665699893326<br> 026066490637551663922691469515745734461065858146408933969356951124432041596128<br> 272794916637229823948248584501592347729992029532594860584427611186151786254334<br> 823503820350363849469150455890670118740902566788239032536444855114742741037803<br> 655098630204492498417146997924096033291795233394232609566695291939284728181124<br> 371349676631081443458321783163024319460537095544807147503134516825792732519141<br> 759413323311576933662237655040000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000<br> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000<br> 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000<br> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000<br> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000


I have to go now, but thank you all for your patience.  This formula and the values
should not have to be corrected this time.

All the best,
David